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The server is slowly dying. Are we gonna let it die?
So. I've seen a lot of things that i don't like in the server recently and i feel like its time to make a thread about it because this is the place where i enjoy playing and i don't wanna let it die without doing anything.
2 hours to wait for a map: Seriously? Just because Bagio spammed his new accounts and was always buying the same darmos maps over and over we have to suffer from his actions? 2 hours is too much time to buy a map again after it got bought recently. A lot of players play here, not only Bagio but we got punished for his nolifing, that's ridiculous imo.
Some admins can't redo anymore: Dear -ffs- Administration, we're playing a videogame. If the majority of the players inside a room want to play a map again and there's an adming inside, why can't they get what they want? rules, rules rules. The server just gets more and more boring by trying to be "correct" etc. This just encourages players to stop playing.
Minigames: We got a new arena in the server where the main objective is just to have fun, a great addition that brought some fresh stuff in to the server, that's something that i like to see. But we already got minigames some time ago and some of the gamemodes are still broken and they don't get fixed. Sometimes the cube doesn't loads at all or you just fly throught it when its moving for no apparent reason. When you have the bomb you crash other players but you still have the bomb with you. The falling roof mode is just too slow and i feel like most of the players get bored with it. When you're playing gun game you get a rifle but even if you're shooting other people in the head you barely do any damage, where's the logic in that. It's a rifle it should give a lot of damage not throw air around.
Stuntage: Now all stunts give -50% less money. why? The main room where players make money is getting extremely nerfed what's the point of this? We gotta donate to the server to keep playing in it? I can't even donate anymore because i'm living in Venezuela, for example. What's going to happen to players who make money in stuntage to play clan wars? Now that's going to be a pain in the ass...
PTP: Yes i'm mentioning PTP. look at how much players the room gets now. When in the past it always used to be full in the day. You could even log in to the server very late at night and there would be 50-40 players inside, it was incredible. A lot of bugs got fixed, and im thankful they did, that's how it should be. But the current system that PTP has just doesn't works. It has slowly killed the arena. Now the majority of players already know all the hunter, hydra and rhino locations. When a new map starts all you see is people running away to get hunters to kill the president. In the other hand, when you're playing as a president now you have 3 options: You run to a rhino, you camp around in SF or LS, or you just keep driving at full speed to escape the hunters or the hydra, it is boring as fuck. Hunters and hydras used to be hidden by every mapper in a different location and they were extremely hard to find. They were not mean to be found just in a mountain or in an airport where anyone can stumble upon one. And new players don't even have a chance to survive now. That pushes new players out. Also the fact that every single map now has 3 hunters 1 hydra and 3 rhinos is ridiculous. We don't even have clear maps anymore.
Players: Last but not least. Correct me if im wrong but i've seen a decrease of players in all arenas. I haven't seen so few players playing alpha DM in years, the same happens when i look at the numbers of players in other arenas that i don't play. GTA SA is and old game and people is getting bored of it, I know it isn't easy to bring new content to the server and i'm just another player that doens't helps in this aspect but this is my point of view, i don't wanna see my favourite server slowly die, the server needs innovation and creativity to keep the player base alive and willing. Even more when there's so many new games coming out or getting new updates.
I would appreciate some feedback and opinions in this thread. Everything is accepted. Thanks for reading my long ass boring post.
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ngl ptp used to be fun as fuck
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Trends
Stuntage: Now all stunts give -50% less money. why? The main room where players make money is getting extremely nerfed what's the point of this? We gotta donate to the server to keep playing in it? I can't even donate anymore because i'm living in Venezuela, for example. What's going to happen to players who make money in stuntage to play clan wars? Now that's going to be a pain in the ass...
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PLUS I want to say something about what happened to Oldschool in my point of view.
For me since oldschool got split into OS / Classic the maplist of both arenas become shit as fuck, am pretty sure this is one reason why OS players are decreasing everyday. I dont know why but after this update seems like admins dont give a fuck about which map gets accepted or declined.
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DISCLAIMER:I'll just state my opinion as an active DM player on FFS gaming, my opinion is not the opinion of FFS nor members.
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Trends
1 hour to wait for a map: Seriously? Just because Bagio spammed his new accounts and was always buying the same darmos maps over and over we have to suffer from his actions? 1 hour is too much time to buy a map again after it got bought recently. A lot of players play here, not only Bagio but we got punished for his nolifing, that's ridiculous imo.
I do not agree with that, I would hate to see people buying the same hdm maps all over again, imagine there's a map cooldown which lasts f.e 30min long - players buying like 5 hdm maps in a row and once they finished, they can buy them instantly again. This would legit fuck up the whole DM room and I do not support that point.
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Some admins can't redo anymore: Dear -ffs- Administration, we're playing a videogame. If the majority of the players inside a room want to play a map again and there's an adming inside, why can't they get what they want? rules, rules rules. The server just gets more and more boring by trying to be "correct" etc. This just encourages players to stop playing.
That is a point which I can totally understand and even support but there used to be admins which abused these commands pretty hard. I mean, a possible solution would be to limit it to specific members which won't abuse this command or add voteredo which would fit aswell. It is really frustating to see the majority of the room asking for redo and you simply can't fullfill it because you don't have the rights to redo. I would love to see a change here aswell.
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Players: Last but not least. Correct me if im wrong but i've seen a decrease of players in all arenas. I haven't seen so few players playing alpha DM in years, the same happens when i look at the numbers of players in other arenas that i don't play. GTA SA is and old game and people is getting bored of it, I know it isn't easy to bring new content to the server and i'm just another player that doens't helps in this aspect but this is my point of view, i don't wanna see my favourite server slowly die, the server needs innovation and creativity to keep the player base alive and willing. Even more when there's so many new games coming out or getting new updates.
I don't really think the community shrinked that massively that you can see a difference there, I mean there are people which definitely don't play on ffs anymore or just left the game but we still have around 400-500 players each day which means that the playerbase didn't shrink at all. Some are on vacation aswell, in some countries are holidays which means that a lot of players (including me) don't want to spend the summer all day long in front of the computer or might chill in a different city/country.
Overall, I do disagree and agree with some points and just wanted to state my opinion here. And yet again, yes I am a FFS member but this opinion is based on a DM players opinion not an admin opinion. Feel free to correct me or even criticize my points!
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VonDusky
DISCLAIMER:I'll just state my opinion as an active DM player on FFS gaming, my opinion is not the opinion of FFS nor members.
I do not agree with that, I would hate to see people buying the same hdm maps all over again, imagine there's a map cooldown which lasts f.e 30min long - players buying like 5 hdm maps in a row and once they finished, they can buy them instantly again. This would legit fuck up the whole DM room and I do not support that point.
I don't want the cooldown to disappear, that would be a clusterfuck. I just think that 1 hour is way too much. And it got expanded just because of 1 player or atleast thats what i think
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RUN died a long time ago because of its bugs, shit maps,people find bugs every day and players are tired because of this. Trust me or not jump bug is still working, the parachute is bugged, the swim bug still working and so on. That’s why RUN is not populated as it used to be.
EDIT: Also not to mention those repeated tops : Click
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As @AlinutZ!
said, run is just dieing from day to day. There is so many bugs, it was much better in 2013-2014 with OLD speed, i don't know who want this speed with bunch of bugs.
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Trends
I don't want the cooldown to disappear, that would be a clusterfuck. I just think that 1 hour is way too much. And it got expanded just because of 1 player or atleast thats what i think
I don't think you got my point there, I don't want to get it decreased because how I already said: imagine f.e. theres a CD of 30min on every map and there are people buying f.e. 5 hdm maps in a row, which would take around 20-30mins to play all 5 of them, they could buy these maps instantly again which would be broken and unenjoyable, never mentioned that you wanted the cd to disappear ay
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blackaim
just stop being poor lol
Lol over all i wrote here all you have to say is this. Incredible. Btw i'm not poor. Situation in Venezuela is so fucked up that the SMS provider to donate stopped working with this country
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I agree with you
Even in sh alwys putting the castle or kamikaze some players hate this map and have fps drop there and about laggers and campers &runners
When we say in global "camper in sh jump&delta" tgey judt ignore us and no one come
And in carball we see many abusers (abusing saves) insult provoking and this are a being hateful from many players and why admins and devoopers or yhe owner dont makr junior of carball or head of carball they care only about dm or sh and dd even sometime we seeore than 40 player in carball but no one care
Sry if i made some mistakes
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10k actually too much for a map khe
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Server hasn't changed much since 2015. Road to 1k?
Race game mode itself is pretty dead
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Trends
So. I've seen a lot of things that i don't like in the server recently and i feel like its time to make a thread about it because this is the place where i enjoy playing and i don't wanna let it die without doing anything.
1 hour to wait for a map: Seriously? Just because Bagio spammed his new accounts and was always buying the same darmos maps over and over we have to suffer from his actions? 1 hour is too much time to buy a map again after it got bought recently. A lot of players play here, not only Bagio but we got punished for his nolifing, that's ridiculous imo.
Some admins can't redo anymore: Dear -ffs- Administration, we're playing a videogame. If the majority of the players inside a room want to play a map again and there's an adming inside, why can't they get what they want? rules, rules rules. The server just gets more and more boring by trying to be "correct" etc. This just encourages players to stop playing.
DISCLAIMER:I'll just state my opinion as an active DM player on FFS gaming, my opinion is not the opinion of FFS nor members.
The actuall cooldown is 2hours, yes that's a bit too long, but I would prefer it like it once was, 1hour. And that admins cant redo anymore, is the most funny thing for me, keep taking their rights away for supporting and helping FFS. (atleast set a system for each admin that they can redo max 2times a hour f.E? to avoid abuse).
Some more things I would like to see, which would increase my gameplay:
Add mapprices back to 5K (It was too perfect), and remove those assfuck long huntersystem, get the WFF mode back(atleast add one more system for that issue, and make 12hours Hunter mode, and 12hours WFF mode), 2017 was the only year I enjoyed playing here (even tho I'm still playing cuz ye, big com)
@Sniper
@Sniper
@Bagio
@Tails
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Trends
Players: Last but not least. Correct me if im wrong but i've seen a decrease of players in all arenas. I haven't seen so few players playing alpha DM in years, the same happens when i look at the numbers of players in other arenas that i don't play. GTA SA is and old game and people is getting bored of it, I know it isn't easy to bring new content to the server and i'm just another player that doens't helps in this aspect but this is my point of view, i don't wanna see my favourite server slowly die, the server needs innovation and creativity to keep the player base alive and willing. Even more when there's so many new games coming out or getting new updates.
It's not good a way to motivate players keep play in the server and game. look, everybody knows the truth, but they don't like to talk about it that much. because they knows that it gonna affect to performance of the server and game. if you write something like this, everybody gonna be bored of this game. and they are looking for an excuse already, and it will be good a chance to leave.
after, nobody can do anything about it anymore. Time to change, that's why i am always saying invite your friends to play with you. MTA Community is changed. I hope it can be better in the future and i have a hope about it.
i have an idea, Try to record some videos. Are you remember that some guys were recording ffs gaming vlog, for an example; a day with MrGun, or MrGun's entry. try to make good stuff. I would like to do but my pc is not able to do this. because my internet speed for uploading video is not fast. also slow rendering
How to record a FFS Gaming vlog:
for an example:
Title - Nebla's ffs gaming Entry:
Content: record every rooms that you're daily playing or more, as you wish.
then upload it to YouTube With much tags. tags helps for your video's performance
or just record as how you want, you're free.
It may help a bit for get more players from all around the world.
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Even though I belong only to the DM Alpha section of ffs, I highly support some of the points you've mentioned and it was about time the community has to express their concerns, because currently the administration is sort of divided by how some changes are pushed and makes us all wonder what the future holds for our general playerbase.
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1 hour to wait for a map: Seriously? Just because Bagio spammed his new accounts and was always buying the same darmos maps over and over we have to suffer from his actions? 1 hour is too much time to buy a map again after it got bought recently. A lot of players play here, not only Bagio but we got punished for his nolifing, that's ridiculous imo.
Correction: It's a 2h cooldown but still...
If there was a rule about abusing multi-accounts just to get toptimes in the first place, Bagio would've been banned and this longass cooldown wouldn't even exist! While I'd like the 2h cooldown to be lower, I just keep bringing myself similar cases to Bagio on how somebody else manages to abuse the cooldown if it ever gets decreased.
Looking at the bright side (this is a bit off-topic but I feel like it's worth mentioning), I'm currently happy that now the 2nd map is random, brings plenty of oportunities for maps that never get to be played to finally give them a try.
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Trends
Some admins can't redo anymore: Dear -ffs- Administration, we're playing a videogame. If the majority of the players inside a room want to play a map again and there's an adming inside, why can't they get what they want? rules, rules rules. The server just gets more and more boring by trying to be "correct" etc. This just encourages players to stop playing.
This is definitely the point that's got me frustrated the most. Due to a small portion of members that used to abuse these commands quite inappropriately, now the rest had to suffer the exact same punishment. How is that what the so-called "fairness" the clan is seeking so much thesedays? Feels pretty shitty I must admit. Since day 1 from the nextmap/redo command update, me and many other members have complained in all the possible ways about how was this even possible, but also suggested MANY other solutions... but as of yet nothing concrete has come out to satisfy the community. Finger crossed this situation doesn't last long, otherwise start saying goodbye to the DM fun factor people used to enjoy.
If you're thinking I'm exaggerating, just hit yourself with a rock in the chest and look at the sad playerbase numbers this arena is having nowadays. I don't want the main gamemode to meet the same fate as Trials or Run.
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Minigames: We got a new arena in the server where the main objective is just to have fun, a great addition that brought some fresh stuff in to the server, that's something that i like to see. But we already got minigames some time ago and some of the gamemodes are still broken and they don't get fixed. Sometimes the cube doesn't loads at all or you just fly throught it when its moving for no apparent reason. When you have the bomb you crash other players but you still have the bomb with you. The falling roof mode is just too slow and i feel like most of the players get bored with it. When you're playing gun game you get a rifle but even if you're shooting other people in the head you barely do any damage, where's the logic in that. It's a rifle it should give a lot of damage not throw air around.
I believe The Cube can be easily corrected by fixing the cube object properties, clipping through it has got to be a .dff issue, but judging by the way the community feels about that minigame, it's likely it either gets removed or simply replace the cube with a brand new one, start getting some community feedback and then keep working forward from there.
That's all I've got to say for now.
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InfiNity.
DISCLAIMER:I'll just state my opinion as an active DM player on FFS gaming, my opinion is not the opinion of FFS nor members.
The actuall cooldown is 2hours, yes that's a bit too long, but I would prefer it like it once was, 1hour. And that admins cant redo anymore, is the most funny thing for me, keep taking their rights away for supporting and helping FFS. (atleast set a system for each admin that they can redo max 2times a hour f.E? to avoid abuse).
Some more things I would like to see, which would increase my gameplay:
Add mapprices back to 5K (It was too perfect), and remove those assfuck long huntersystem, get the WFF mode back(atleast add one more system for that issue, and make 12hours Hunter mode, and 12hours WFF mode), 2017 was the only year I enjoyed playing here (even tho I'm still playing cuz ye, big com)
@
Sniper
@
Sniper
@
Bagio
@
Tails
2 hours. I also forgot it was that long. WTF o_O
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10k actually too much for a map khe
I totally forgot about this. It drains your money like crazy
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Perfect!!! you said everything that many are afraid to say... ;0
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I agree with everything, special the thing about stuntage. It is getting worse if you set the nerf of -50% of all stunt prizes. #BackOldStuntage!
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Trends
Hunters and hydras used to be hidden by every mapper in a different location and they were extremely hard to find.
I like this part. New player can get 20k points in 1 day because he know the location of hunter,hydra and rhino .
In the past i spent 7 days to get 20k to have rocket launcher. Now every player has 0 points can get 20k in 1 day because he know location of hunter so, I think this is not fair.
Make PTP Great Again
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Hey, I wanna add a point:
Why 10k for a map in HDM/OS? What's the point of this, before when we used to buy "auto-b" was even cheaper. Now all our money is spent faster than before and literally makes you donate to have some extra coins and that's tottally abusive. Not going to make a joke about this but some will understand of what I am talking about. Change this, it's unacceptable and makes me think that all this time the people that changed this have been laughing at our faces. I really want to understand what was the point of this change, even if there's no change, WHY from 5k (+ auto-b) had to go to 10k????
Now, other points are fair, 2 hours is way too much to wait, with 1 it was fine. No point for this also.
For the redo thing there could be a better solution for this and it's just remove that right from the "abusive" admins, why would you remove a right like that to the other admins? When we are all playing and everyone is agree for the redo it's very cool when an admin makes a redo to the map, it give us a good image from the admins. What's the point also of this?
Hope the developers and administrators read this, seems like they haven't heard us yet...
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Se supone que esto es un juego para pasar el rato y divertirnos, por ejemplo eso de que no todos los admins puedan volver a darle redo al mapa se me hace algo inecesario para la comunidad ya que eso hace que a algunas personas no les agrade del todo la administracion. En fin... que bueno que alguien como tu si se de cuenta de lo que esta pasando en el servidor.
Genax//
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hay que tener en cuenta que a medida que aumenten las arenas del servidor osea nuevos modos de juego, las personas se van disminuyendo cada vez mas, pero no quiero decir que el server no lo juegue ya nadie, puede ser que la persona se canse de jugar en una arena y vaya a otra, por ejemplo yo me viciaba hp, luego pase a race y por ultimo shooter y minigames, yo pienso que es eso, jugadores quieren probar cosas nuevas, race se llena varias veces, shooter tambien de las ultimas veces que vi, run definitivamente me parece que esta muerto, igual que trials, no se si llegan a los 10 jugadores pero la mayoria de las veces que vi no tenia jugadores casi.
minigames: necesitamos que por lo menos cada 1 mes agreguen nuevos modos,mapas, porque llega un momento que cansa, los bugs de que el cubo no aparece, bugs con los cp en race, el fallout se bugea al momento que ganan una gran cantidad de jugadores y no le da ni puntos al ganador. tambien minigames necesitamos que se reduzcan las arenas extras que hay, no puede ser que haya por ejemplo 12 players en alpha y 5 beta, 7 en delta, por lo menos que sean 2 arenas extras, ya que no se llena lo suficiente como para agregar tantas a arenas, y me da rabia sabiendo que la capacidad es de 32 y seamos apenas 12, y que los de 5 o 7 jugadores que estan en beta y delta no se unan. ah y casi me olvido, necesitamos que implementen un nuevo metodo de la bomba de autos ya que para los laggers es dificil chocar a los demas o viceversa, ya muchos se quejan e insultan por eso y ami no me siento comodo al ganar de esa manera.
Jackson.
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finally someone talked about PTP
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10k for buying a Map, WHY
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Lets just play minecraft
Well, I surely have to agree with you.
I guess everyone noticed it.
But yea, rules pretty much destroyed a specific amount of fun.
I loved the times with kiwi. Sure it's not cool for everyone when admins are having fun with their rights. But we didn't so this every fucking day it was just once a month or so.
And now, people are not even able redo maps like tf?!
Whatever, times getting better soon, probably..
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There's no future in this game anymore , back in the days everything was different , a lot of people were here and also tons of servers , nowdays? Vultaic opens and R.I.P , ypu dont hear anything , kida same with acwverso. What I'm trying ti say? That only FFS actually is still here and still Alive so its like (you dont follow my rules? You out!) And there's nothing to be surprised of
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Ye bro everything is slowly dying i am very glad that you make that thread so admins can have a look at wth is happenning to the server
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This respawn bug just fucks me up all the time again and again
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Hey, let me comment some of your statements with actual facts and not opinions.
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Trends
Just because Bagio spammed his new accounts and was always buying the same darmos maps over and over we have to suffer from his actions?
We increased the cooldown on buying maps not only because of Bagio (by the way - we had several other players doing the same) but also because of increasing number of maps in our arenas - we want players to have a variety of maps being played, not only same maps within hourly lapse.
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Trends
If the majority of the players inside a room want to play a map again and there's an adming inside, why can't they get what they want?
Never ever during my entire time playing here have I encountered a situation where a majority of the room wanted a map to be redone (maybe if there was ~5 players in), and yes, I'm pretty active. Can't clearly see your point here.
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But we already got minigames some time ago and some of the gamemodes are still broken and they don't get fixed.
Our developers are working on update for minigames, hopefully they will be able to bring it soon.
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Now all stunts give -50% less money. why?
You shall find out the answer soon.
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Trends
Correct me if im wrong but i've seen a decrease of players in all arenas.
I am correcting you then, statistics don't show any decrease.
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What are you talking about bro, Trials has a bigger playerbase since EvVoZ and me got junior rights :v .like.
Anyways, I agree with Stuntage thing (i'm not a stuntage player but getting money for the clans to play cws was faster).
About the redo thing, idk, I have mixed opinions, from one side you can let admins redo maps like before and just punish those admins who abuse it. But in the other side, if 3 or 4 players spam redo in the chat does not means that "whole room" wants redo.
About cooldown for the maps, would be good to decrease the time for smaller arenas like Trials (maybe run too but idk actually how is the situation with the maps there).
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Well im not the part of the community since Adam and Eve, i just started to play ffs continously 2 or 3 years ago, i cant see most of the mentioned problems, maybe you are right about the PTP arena, thats true that in PTP everyone knows the Rhinos, Hunters and Hydras location, that could make the gaming experience bad for a beginner ptp player, this problem could be fixed if ffs delete some maps or if some mappers start to make lots of new maps which will be accepted. I only can see player activity decrease in ptp but i think with some map changes that could be fixed easily, otherwise i am a shooter player and often play dm too, shooter arenas always filled, the community here is good af thanks to the behaviour and kindness of the shooter players and juniors, in dm arenas its similar
So i dont think so that FFS dying, especially not these arenas
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[QUOTE=SmoK!;635459]Hey, let me comment some of your statements with actual facts and not opinions.
What about PTP you agree?
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