Re: [OS] Mentos ft. UltraZz - Slipstream
Quote:
Originally Posted by
SupRime
You should keep up with hunter montages marque xD
Maybe you're right but, being honest with you, it has been time since I really wanted to make something else than uploading simple montages (I already have 12, the first one is aging 5 years (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkIPc0t80Wk)) and I feel like the stuff I'm doing right now it's what I do enjoy the most (streaming clanwars and recording newest maps). I do my best every time trying to bring a nice video, to make an almost perfect stream, even playing CWs which is helpless due to becoming less skilled these days ... I know I'm not the best, though I'm trying my best.
From the map I only want to say that I had fun recording it and also later editing the video itself, despite I use 2 or 3 effects as much, but that's my style, showing what's important. I hope I can record more maps from these boys ( @UltraZz
& @*Mentos#
) and obviously from everyone who asks me and I'll gladly try my best bringing their map out.
Re: [OS] Mentos ft. UltraZz - Slipstream
Marque still pro.
Good job to Mentos and UltraZz!
Re: [OS] Mentos ft. UltraZz - Slipstream
Quote:
Originally Posted by
GteateroK
Que videazo Marque PROOOOOOOOOO
I feel bad for the real OS players who must play these maps.
Also for the mappers who make these maps thinking that they are OS.
I also feel bad for the person who accepts these maps in the OS arena, he may be a junior or admin but he has no idea what OS is and he obviously has that power because he is active.
I feel bad for people who think a bad DM map is OS
I feel bad for people who move DM maps to OS arena because they have empty deco or easy track.
I feel bad for the people who make these maps justifying that they are "modern OS" being that "modern os" is DM without dedication
I feel bad for mappers who have made real DM maps but a map tester "os" has declined them, reason: remove slide part (I uploaded a dm map with another nick just to test and a global junior declined it for that reason)
I feel bad for players who are active in the OS arena and still think that the luzid maps are OS.
The truth is that all this happens thanks to the people who accept this type of maps in OS arena(Not Revolce, he actually knows what is OS)
Unfortunately thanks to this, people make this type of maps thinking that they are OS, then those maps are uploaded to other places and destroy OS arenas from other servers
I am disgusted by each one that destroyed one of the best arenas, even I am disgusted of myself, I wanted to test something, I uploaded HDM maps to OS and I only put "GteaterOS" on mapname and they accepted it in OS
As DM map I rate it as 3/10, as OS map I rate as 1.1/10, this is Loquitran, Spectrum should be proud to be an OS mapper, dont worry, this is not your fault UltraZz i love you
holy life bro, you spoke so much truth that it seems that they will even call these words, i feel bad for you my friend ....
beautiful words ...
Re: [OS] Mentos ft. UltraZz - Slipstream
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Kanzy
Marque did improve a lot already, from making simple records to already making map intros in a very short time and he is still improving. Your comment is nothing but disrespectful and you don't see the effort behind it, even if you should after all the maps you have released in which u put ur effort. About mentos i can say, I believe it won't take him 50 volumes to make a really decent map.
I see the effort behind it, but like I said, for my taste it just looks too empty and not really finished.
I personally like to see when people spend some time into their map and not place some objects here and there near the track.
It surely wont take Mentos several volumes to make a decent map, cause he got potential. Honestly haven't really seen or played a map from him before, but the track is smooth - and that's an important factor of a map in my eyes.
Regarding UltraZz, I've already played some maps from him and know he can do better. It's not that whenever I read UltraZz I'd think that he comes up with some outstanding decorations/track, but the maps I used to play were always above averange.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
UltraZz
I respect your opinions and am proud of playing in a community with creative mappers and decorators as you guys. I tried my best but I see that it is 3-4 years too late for this decoration style to be considered "cool" or "unique".
That's why I will not map any more then. I simply don't have enough time to learn all the new techniques as you guys did.
Like Mert said, I released a dozen of maps. Once you make a map, you can't satisfy everyone. There are always 2 groups of people who'll either like, or dislike the map. But that's okay - atleast for me. At some point, I do make maps for others, but generally I'm mapping for fun and for myself.
It would actually be sad if you wont release any map anymore.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Marque
Maybe you're right but, being honest with you, it has been time since I really wanted to make something else than uploading simple montages (I already have 12, the first one is aging 5 years (
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkIPc0t80Wk)) and I feel like the stuff I'm doing right now it's what I do enjoy the most (streaming clanwars and recording newest maps). I do my best every time trying to bring a nice video, to make an almost perfect stream, even playing CWs which is helpless due to becoming less skilled these days ... I know I'm not the best, though I'm trying my best.
If you enjoy it the most, then keep up dude! I actually only wrote that phrase, cause you're known for such montages - atleast to me.
The more maps you will record, the more you get in touch with editing and recording in general. I'm looking forward to seeing more map videos from you.
Re: [OS] Mentos ft. UltraZz - Slipstream
Quote:
Originally Posted by
UltraZz
I am sorry that you guys dont like it. I personally was motivated to map again after seven years (my last map was made in 2013) and I am glad that Mentos liked my style of decoration. I am sorry that I could not keep up with your guys's expectations, I love the Loquitran series and tried to adapt some deco elements and adapt it into a more "night-ish" atmosphere. Since I was out of touch with the mapping techniques, I just used the NexTReme editor (the only tool i used besides AMT back in the days).
Imo I also think this map belongs more into Modern DM, but I dont blame Mentos or any other individual for deciding which arena to upload it to.
I respect your opinions and am proud of playing in a community with creative mappers and decorators as you guys. I tried my best but I see that it is 3-4 years too late for this decoration style to be considered "cool" or "unique".
That's why I will not map any more then. I simply don't have enough time to learn all the new techniques as you guys did.
I hope that you understand my point of view and we all can still play along in our free time.
~Ultra
Mate, I believe that you have misunderstooded it. but I understand it, because we are commenting this topic on the post of this map. Besides, Gteatero was saying that about other maps. I really like this kind of maps, now they are my favourite maps. I believe u have made a good decoration. However, I'm sorry if we are speaking about that topic on this topic, but it happened. The problem is with the players that are uploading maps, well they don't know what map is DM or OS. It's not ur fault. I don't know what they should do to improve this problem. But It's a big problem at Old School.
On the other hand, don't give up, I liked your decoration, u mustn't considerer bad commentarys, we don't depend on what others say. I'm sorry if u have felt badly.
Re: [OS] Mentos ft. UltraZz - Slipstream
Quote:
Originally Posted by
GteateroK
Que videazo Marque PROOOOOOOOOO
I feel bad for the real OS players who must play these maps.
Also for the mappers who make these maps thinking that they are OS.
I also feel bad for the person who accepts these maps in the OS arena, he may be a junior or admin but he has no idea what OS is and he obviously has that power because he is active.
I feel bad for people who think a bad DM map is OS
I feel bad for people who move DM maps to OS arena because they have empty deco or easy track.
I feel bad for the people who make these maps justifying that they are "modern OS" being that "modern os" is DM without dedication
I feel bad for mappers who have made real DM maps but a map tester "os" has declined them, reason: remove slide part (I uploaded a dm map with another nick just to test and a global junior declined it for that reason)
I feel bad for players who are active in the OS arena and still think that the luzid maps are OS.
The truth is that all this happens thanks to the people who accept this type of maps in OS arena(Not Revolce, he actually knows what is OS)
Unfortunately thanks to this, people make this type of maps thinking that they are OS, then those maps are uploaded to other places and destroy OS arenas from other servers
I am disgusted by each one that destroyed one of the best arenas, even I am disgusted of myself, I wanted to test something, I uploaded HDM maps to OS and I only put "GteaterOS" on mapname and they accepted it in OS
As DM map I rate it as 3/10, as OS map I rate as 1.1/10, this is Loquitran, Spectrum should be proud to be an OS mapper, dont worry, this is not your fault UltraZz i love you
holy shit, best commentary of 2020
Re: [OS] Mentos ft. UltraZz - Slipstream
About the map, being honest, i agree with SupRime, deco is too poor, i'm a fan of minimalism, but i dont think the map is minimalist, it just needs more deco, more something...
Personally, i like these type of track, it's cool, but it is very monotone and hardly requires any skill to finish.
To me, you're a good mapper, the track is well made, but you need to find a better way to go.
Re: [OS] Mentos ft. UltraZz - Slipstream
Quote:
Originally Posted by
SupRime
I see the effort behind it, but like I said, for my taste it just looks too empty and not really finished.
I personally like to see when people spend some time into their map and not place some objects here and there near the track.
It surely wont take Mentos several volumes to make a decent map, cause he got potential. Honestly haven't really seen or played a map from him before, but the track is smooth - and that's an important factor of a map in my eyes.
Regarding UltraZz, I've already played some maps from him and know he can do better. It's not that whenever I read UltraZz I'd think that he comes up with some outstanding decorations/track, but the maps I used to play were always above averange.
Like Mert said, I released a dozen of maps. Once you make a map, you can't satisfy everyone. There are always 2 groups of people who'll either like, or dislike the map. But that's okay - atleast for me. At some point, I do make maps for others, but generally I'm mapping for fun and for myself.
It would actually be sad if you wont release any map anymore.
If you enjoy it the most, then keep up dude! I actually only wrote that phrase, cause you're known for such montages - atleast to me.
The more maps you will record, the more you get in touch with editing and recording in general. I'm looking forward to seeing more map videos from you.
the real of mapper suprime:)
Re: [OS] Mentos ft. UltraZz - Slipstream
Quote:
Originally Posted by
GteateroK
Que videazo Marque PROOOOOOOOOO
I feel bad for the real OS players who must play these maps.
Also for the mappers who make these maps thinking that they are OS.
I also feel bad for the person who accepts these maps in the OS arena, he may be a junior or admin but he has no idea what OS is and he obviously has that power because he is active.
I feel bad for people who think a bad DM map is OS
I feel bad for people who move DM maps to OS arena because they have empty deco or easy track.
I feel bad for the people who make these maps justifying that they are "modern OS" being that "modern os" is DM without dedication
I feel bad for mappers who have made real DM maps but a map tester "os" has declined them, reason: remove slide part (I uploaded a dm map with another nick just to test and a global junior declined it for that reason)
I feel bad for players who are active in the OS arena and still think that the luzid maps are OS.
The truth is that all this happens thanks to the people who accept this type of maps in OS arena(Not Revolce, he actually knows what is OS)
Unfortunately thanks to this, people make this type of maps thinking that they are OS, then those maps are uploaded to other places and destroy OS arenas from other servers
I am disgusted by each one that destroyed one of the best arenas, even I am disgusted of myself, I wanted to test something, I uploaded HDM maps to OS and I only put "GteaterOS" on mapname and they accepted it in OS
As DM map I rate it as 3/10, as OS map I rate as 1.1/10, this is Loquitran, Spectrum should be proud to be an OS mapper, dont worry, this is not your fault UltraZz i love you
Welcome to FFS Gaming!
Re: [OS] Mentos ft. UltraZz - Slipstream
Hello there, sorry for bumping this topic again, but i wanted to say my point. I know that I am not good at mapping and I basically only have ideas for the track, because I have problems with deco, I want a really high-quality deco for my maps, but for now it's hard for me because there is not enough experience and therefore I asked help from the players and later UltraZz offered me his help, and it was our idea to make a simple deco for the map, for example nature, some rocks and so on, and it seems to me that he did a great job with it. I understand that for many people, map seems empty because when you get more experience, you look at things from the other side, you want to do better and better, but we do not have so much experience to make maps that can compete with the best mappers. Initially, it was my request that this map should be accepted in the OS arena and later after numerous comments I realized that it was a mistake and I apologize for that since this is a regular DM map. I do not think that someone insulted me or UltraZz because most of the criticism was directed towards improvement. But I think that experienced players could be kinder with their advices and statements, since this is just a game guys, and wasting time on being toxic and treating newbies badly is not worth it, because your advice motivates us. Anyways thanks to everyone for their opinion, I will try to listen and do only better in the future.